Legislature(1993 - 1994)

01/19/1994 03:00 PM House HES

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           HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES                         
                       STANDING COMMITTEE                                      
                        January 19, 1994                                       
                            3:00 p.m.                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Rep. Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair                                                
  Rep. Con Bunde, Co-Chair                                                     
  Rep. Gary Davis, Vice Chair                                                  
  Rep. Al Vezey                                                                
  Rep. Pete Kott                                                               
  Rep. Harley Olberg                                                           
  Rep. Irene Nicholia                                                          
  Rep. Tom Brice                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Rep. Bettye Davis (excused)                                                  
                                                                               
  OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                    
                                                                               
  Rep. Jim Nordlund                                                            
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  Overview:  Department of Health and Social Services                          
                                                                               
             Commissioner Margaret Lowe                                        
             Jay Livey, Deputy Commissioner                                    
             Kim Busch, Director, Division of Medical                          
                 Assistance                                                    
             Jan Hansen, Director, Division of Public                          
                 Assistance                                                    
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER MARGARET LOWE                                                   
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110601                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0601                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 465-3030                                                       
                                                                               
  DR. PETER NAKAMURA, Director                                                 
  Division of Public Health                                                    
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110610                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0610                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 465-3090                                                       
                                                                               
  KIM BUSCH, Director                                                          
  Division of Medical Assistance                                               
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110660                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0660                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 456-33552                                                      
                                                                               
  JAN HANSEN, Director                                                         
  Division of Public Assistance                                                
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110640                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0640                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 465-3347                                                       
                                                                               
  SUZANNE PERRY, Regional Program Coordinator                                  
  Division of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse                                        
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110607                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0607                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 465-2071                                                       
                                                                               
  SHARON LOWE, Admistraive Officer                                             
  Division of Public Health                                                    
  Department of Health and Social Services                                     
  P.O. Box 110610                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0610                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 465-3090                                                       
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-02, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY called the meeting to order at 3:03 p.m., noted                 
  the members present, announced the calendar, and introduced                  
  the Department of Health and Social Services members.                        
                                                                               
  (NOTE:  Due to accidental erasure, tape count numbers 036-                   
  199 have not been transcribed.  This portion of the meeting                  
  contained testimony from Commissioner Margaret Lowe, whose                   
  prepared statement is on file.  Her testimony has been                       
  pieced together from the prepared statement.)                                
                                                                               
  Number 200                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER MARGARET LOWE, Department of Health and Social                  
  Services (DHSS), read a prepared statement to the committee.                 
  (Attachment 1).  In it, she informed the committee of                        
  legislation that the Department of Health and Social                         
  Services (DHSS) supports and also a summary of status in                     
  regards to specific programs within the department.  She                     
  stated that health care reform, alcohol and tobacco excise                   
  tax, Governor Hickel's crime package, and senior services                    
  legislation were of particular interest to the department at                 
  that time.                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said that the Division of Mental Health                    
  and Developmental Disabilities (DMHDD) Medicaid refinancing                  
  for mental health services had proven successful.  As of                     
  January, Medicaid revenues collected by grantees were                        
  greater than the entire previous year, and through Medicaid                  
  all grantees will have made up for funding cuts in fiscal                    
  1994.  Also, programs such as Project CHOICE waivers and Tax                 
  Equity Fiscal Responsibility Acts of 1982 (TEFRA) will help                  
  to reduce costs for facility or in-patient treatment by                      
  increasing home-based and community services for clients.                    
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said that the DHSS (the department)                        
  endorsed Governor Hickel's legislation to increase the                       
  excise tax on alcoholic beverages by 50%, expressing that                    
  the increase would reduce alcohol consumption among youths                   
  and not affect Alaskans who do not drink alcohol.  She also                  
  supported the automatic waiver of juveniles 16 and over and                  
  stated that all five juvenile correctional facilities had                    
  been accredited.                                                             
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE stated that protection and licensing for                   
  adults and children has been reorganized.  The Division of                   
  Family and Youth Services (DFYS) will be responsible for                     
  protection and licensing for children, and adult concerns                    
  will be handled by the Division of Senior Services.                          
  COMMISSIONER LOWE talked about the replacement of Alaska                     
  Psychiatric Institute (API) in Anchorage.  The plan is to                    
  provide designated treatment beds in existing facilities                     
  around the state and to replace API with a 90-bed facility                   
  and a 24-bed forensic facility.                                              
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE felt, in the area of public assistance,                    
  that the recipients were the result of the of lack of other                  
  preventative and supportive programs that prevent people                     
  from initially entering into the system.  She suggested that                 
  they needed more staffing to assure containment and payment                  
  accuracy.                                                                    
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE commented on various successful programs                   
  and programs in need.  Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) is                 
  expected to bring more federal funds into the state as the                   
  program grew by approximately 50%.  Through Medicaid, Alaska                 
  Youth Initiative serves 130 youths which previously                          
  accommodated 100.  Decline in suicide is the most                            
  significant in the villages that have grants from the                        
  department's rural program, Commissioner Lowe stated.  Also,                 
  she cited the decreased reliance of foster care due to                       
  serving children in their own homes and shortening out-                      
  placement length of stay.                                                    
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE expressed concern for severely emotionally                 
  disturbed children statewide, as research proved that there                  
  was a "great unmet need for mental health services."                         
                                                                               
  Number 531                                                                   
                                                                               
  (Rep. Brice arrived at 3:07)                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 538                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked the department about the teen pregnancy                     
  problem.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 554                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE stated that she did not know of a                          
  concentrated effort that was taking place to curb teen                       
  pregnancy and referred to Dr. Nakamura.                                      
                                                                               
  Number 567                                                                   
                                                                               
  DR. PETER NAKAMURA, Director, Division of Public Health,                     
  DHSS, said that the department agreed that teen pregnancy                    
  was a major area of concern that could be addressed through                  
  family planning and family health education programs.                        
                                                                               
  Number  583                                                                  
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked if the rate of teen pregnancy was slowing.                  
                                                                               
  Number 586                                                                   
                                                                               
  DR. NAKAMURA could not give accurate numbers, but                            
  volunteered the statistic that better than 10% of births in                  
  Alaska are born to teen parents.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 605                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked if single, pregnant teens received a                        
  monthly stipend from the state.                                              
  Number 617                                                                   
                                                                               
  DR. NAKAMURA stated that the Women, Infants, and Children                    
  (WIC) program supplied supplemental food for pregnant woman,                 
  and the program was not limited to teens.                                    
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE felt it was inappropriate to give a cash stipend                  
  to teens and encouraged a coupon of sorts (i.e., food                        
  stamps).  He asked if the state paid for sonograms for                       
  teens.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 643                                                                   
                                                                               
  KIM BUSCH, Director, Division of Medical Assistance, DHSS,                   
  stated that under the Healthy Baby Initiative teen                           
  pregnancies are considered high risk, and if the teen is on                  
  Medicaid she is eligible for certain services through the                    
  state.                                                                       
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked again if there was a stipend for teens.                     
                                                                               
  MS. BUSCH replied she was unaware of any stipend through the                 
  state.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 718                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR BUNDE asked again if there was a "financial reward"                    
  for teens getting pregnant.                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 720                                                                   
                                                                               
  JAN HANSEN, Director, Division of Public Assistance, DHSS,                   
  stated that there was no available cash stipend through DHSS                 
  until the third trimester when the teen meets the                            
  requirements through Aid to Families with Dependent Children                 
  (AFDC) and a grant is allowed.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 737                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY said that a teen would not automatically be                     
  sent a stipend; they would have to apply through Medicaid or                 
  AFDC.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 749                                                                   
                                                                               
  In reply to Rep. Bunde's question, MS. HANSEN stated that a                  
  teen in her first or second trimester does not receive a                     
  cash stipend.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 756                                                                   
                                                                               
  (Rep. Kott arrived at 3:25)                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 763                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE asked the department's reaction to legislation in                 
  other states regarding state funding for teens to live on                    
  their own away from their family.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 782                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HANSEN said that a task force in 1988 recommended that                   
  Alaska not adopt the requirement for teens to live in the                    
  home of the parent; the mind-set being that the state would                  
  not force a teen to live in an abusive environment.  She                     
  stated that the Clinton Administration was proposing                         
  legislation to make pregnant teens live at home, and                         
  subsequent to national debate, would look again at the                       
  issue.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 856                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. G. DAVIS asked Dr. Nakamura if there would be any cost                  
  reductions in services provided by the state upon completion                 
  of the new Native hospital in Anchorage.                                     
                                                                               
  Number 864                                                                   
                                                                               
  DR. NAKAMURA felt there would not be any significant                         
  changes.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 880                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. G. DAVIS asked Ms. Hansen about her opinion on welfare                  
  reform in Alaska in regards to legislation in Wisconsin.                     
                                                                               
  Number 888                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HANSEN answered that whatever demonstration projects                     
  that were being tested in Wisconsin and other states that                    
  had merit would be seriously considered by the department.                   
                                                                               
  Number 939                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE inquired as to whether or not the DHSS had an                     
  opinion on "two years and out" for Alaska, referring to                      
  present legislation in other states that allows for                          
  recipients to participate in the system for two years, exit                  
  the system, and then after only a brief period rejoin the                    
  system.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 950                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HANSEN answered that she felt Alaska would not "just put                 
  people out" after two years, stating as a supporting factor                  
  that there are 12,500 families on AFDC and that there are                    
  not 12,500 jobs available.  She supported an expectation of                  
  a time limit in the form of a contract between family and                    
  state and the utilization of the JOBS program.                               
                                                                               
  Number 022                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY reminded the department of her "HEALTHY                         
  STUDENT" bill, stating that the bill addressed all the                       
  aforementioned youth problems (i.e., teen pregnancy, alcohol                 
  and tobacco consumption, and an increase in HIV) and asked                   
  for support from the department.                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked why there was a 30% increase of women and                 
  children in Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC).                  
                                                                               
  Number 040                                                                   
                                                                               
  DR. NAKAMURA stated that WIC was given an additional                         
  $1,000,000 last year to serve more individuals, and the                      
  program was serving 40% of the eligible population.                          
                                                                               
  Number 050                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY was reminded that it was the rebate process                     
  discussed in the subcommittee that made the additional                       
  $1,000,000 of no cost to the state.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 063                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY questioned the department about the criteria                    
  for participating in TEFRA.                                                  
                                                                               
  MS. BUSCH said the eligibility criteria was based on the                     
  child's income, regardless of the parent's income.                           
                                                                               
  Number 090                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE stated that TEFRA only covered children 18                 
  and under for mid-level to severe level care for the                         
  developmentally disabled.                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 100                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked the cost of the outcome study.                            
                                                                               
  Number 104                                                                   
                                                                               
  SUZANNE PERRY, Regional Program Coordinator, Division of                     
  Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, DHSS, stated that the contract                    
  was for $150,000.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 123                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked if there would be chronic beds at the new                 
  API.                                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 128                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said that there would be no chronic beds                   
  at the new facility, but API 2000 would facilitate tertiary                  
  care (care for the most complex cases necessitating a staff                  
  of psychiatrists).  Primary and secondary care would be                      
  provided in regional hospitals around the state.                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-02, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 006                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked how many beds API presently has.                          
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE responded that there were 130 beds.                        
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked if the other beds would be taken up by                    
  the surrounding hospitals (ANS, Providence, etc.).                           
                                                                               
  Number 015                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE replied that there were still a fair                       
  number of long-term psychiatric or "nursing home" type of                    
  dementia patients.  The department was looking to place some                 
  of those patients at Harbor View Developmental Center.                       
                                                                               
  Number 080                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked if there was data that showed the impact                 
  of the Rural Human Services program (also known as Village                   
  Counsellor program).                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 091                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE stated that the training program at the                    
  University of Alaska, Fairbanks for Rural Human Services had                 
  moved up to the certification level, and as it continues to                  
  grow, it benefits the villages.  She said the data clearly                   
  reflected changes in alcohol habits and a lower suicide rate                 
  within the villages involved in the grant program.                           
                                                                               
  Number 141                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked for comment on the length of time on                     
  waiting lists for the rural communities for infant learning                  
  programs.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 152                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE explained that there were waiting lists                    
  and acknowledged that the department was not meeting the                     
  needs of the program with the current budget.                                
                                                                               
  Number 160                                                                   
                                                                               
  SHARON LOWE, Regional Program Director, Division of                          
  Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, DHSS, remarked that hopefully the                 
  waiting list was not increasing, and cited the need for                      
  grantees and third party payers to apply to Medicaid for                     
  reimbursement to offset the $200,000 program receipts.                       
                                                                               
  Number 200                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY asked if it was a statewide program or a Native                 
  program only.  She was told by a number of participants that                 
  it was statewide and that there were waiting lists virtually                 
  everywhere.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 208                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. NICHOLIA asked if there were other crime bills besides                  
  SB 54 that the department was supporting.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 215                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE responded that the department was working                  
  specifically with Senator Halford on youth waivers.                          
                                                                               
  Number 231                                                                   
                                                                               
  REP. BUNDE inquired as to the success/failure rate of                        
  treatment centers for alcoholism and drug abuse, commenting                  
  that there should be effective documentation evaluating                      
  treatment performance.                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 259                                                                   
                                                                               
  COMMISSIONER LOWE said treatment evaluation research was a                   
  difficult study as it must be done over a long period of                     
  time and there is no existing funding presently to                           
  facilitate a study over the span of time required for                        
  accurate assessment.                                                         
                                                                               
  Number 145                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY briefly related her childhood struggle with                     
  family dysfunction and growing up with Alcoholics Anonymous                  
  (A.A.).  She stated that recovery is such an "ongoing"                       
  process that one could not qualify an outcome until they die                 
  sober or from alcohol abuse.  She stated further that the                    
  $125,000 should be put towards A.A. meetings and                             
  counselling.                                                                 
  Number 340                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIR TOOHEY reminded the department of the state's fiscal                   
  status and said there would be future input needed from the                  
  department.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Seeing no further questions or discussion, Chair Toohey                      
  adjourned the meeting at 3:56 p.m.                                           

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